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How to use VAG OBD helper & VVDI2 to program MQB key?

VAG OBD helper reads out MQB IMMO data firstly, then use VVDI2 Commander to load the immo data and add new key successfully.

Part 1: How to use VAG OBD helper to read out MQB IMMO data?

Hook VAG OBD helper up the vehicle.

Click on “Read car info”to getmanufacture, VIN, immo type, power, key count, key ID etc.

Enable the network connection and upload data to calculate.

The system is reading ECU type.

Click on “Online calculate immo data”.

Online calculate immo data successfully and saved automatically, click on “Yes”.

Part 2: Generate MQB NEC35XX remote key

Need: VVDI2 and the immo data read out by VAG OBD helper

Click on “Key learn” – “MQB IMMO”, select NEC24C64 or NEC35XX (Mainland /VDO)

Generate dealer key with Immo data.

Load immo data, click “OK”.

If you will use the immo data to copy and generate dealer key, click “No”.

MQB is “Audi” option as default.

Tick on the first option, click on “Next”.

Click on “Yes”.

Put the original key into the coil of VVDI2, click on “Yes”.

Click on “Add key”.

Please make sure you have backup the EEPROM and IMMO data.

Choose the method to add key.

Option 3, load immo data, key number, next…

Tip:

Please make sure you follow the on-screen instructions to learn MQB key, even though it fails, don’t turn off ignition.

For Skoda MQB key learn, the coil has to be taken out.

BMW X3 2004 EWS4 Key Programming by VVDI2 & VVDI Prog

Here, you will learn how to program a new X3 2004 key and do eeprom job with Xhorse vvdi (VVDI2 and VVDI-Prog)

Q: Can i make a x series key with the vvdi2 and how? (it’s x3 2004)

A: Yes …it is ews4 (eeprom job )

Q: Taking the ecu out?

A: Not the ecu …taking immo box out …its a white box under the steering wheel same size as a pack of cigs.

Q: Do i need any adapter for that?

A: you just need open vvdi prog ,select ews4 and will show you the connections….solder it and you are good to read it

Q: And does it give you a key code like the cas’s

A: no , is it your first isn’t it?

Q: yes it is. Is this what i need?

A: thats not for ews4…VVDI prog have its own EWS4 adapter, so does the AK90

I mean there is ews4 incircuit connect by vvdi prog. Look here:

Q: how is the procedure

A: Put the ESW4 module in the adapter and lock it

To solder

Which Tool is Good at VAG Group Key Learning: Four Choices for You

Four choices to do VAG key learning: AVDI, Xhorse VVDI2, Lonsdor K518ISE, Auro Otosys IM600, OBDSTAR X300 etc.

AVDI

As known avdi works good. but look out for mm dash in vw up you can lost cs so make backup original abrites do now also mqb key learning i have the option but never try it.

Beside, the price is expensive and not everyone can afford it.

Xhorse VVDI2

Nice features:

Supports add keys and all keys lost for VAG group

Simple calculate price and calculate price for updates.

Even prepare MQB dealer key & MQB keyless GO key learning works

Xhorse VVDI2 Key Learn

Support learn dealer key by OBD for most of the vehicles (Auto detect type is supported). Supports following types:

1) Audi A4/A6 (immobilizer box) -1997 – KWP1281

2) Audi A8 (immobilizer box) -1999 – KWP1281

3) Audi A2/A3/A6/TT/Allroad 1997+ – KWP1281

4) Audi A4 1997-2002 – KWP1281VVDI2

5) Audi A4 2002+ – KWP2000

6) Audi A8 1999-2002 – KWP1281

7) Audi A3 – CAN

8) Audi A6/Q7/Allroard 2005+ – CAN (Support OBD lost all key)

9) Seat Altea -2007 – CAN

10) Seat Cordoba

11) Seat Ibiza (immobilizer box) -1999 – KWP1281

12) Seat Ibiza 1999+

13) Seat Leon – KWP1281

14) Seat Leon -2007 – CAN

15) Seat Toledo – KWP1281

16) Seat Toledo -2007 – CAN

17) Skoda Octavia – KWP1281

18) Skoda Octavia II -2007 – CAN

19) Skoda Octavia II 2007+ – CAN

20) Skoda Superb – KWP1281

21) Skoda Roomster – KWP1281

22) Skoda Scout -2007 – CAN

23) Skoda Fabia (immobilizer box) -1999 – KWP1281

24) Skoda Fabia 1999+ – KWP1281

25) VAG (immobilizer box) – KWP1281

26) VAG KWP1281 Immobilizer – KWP1281

27) VAG KWP2000 Immobilizer – KWP2000

28) VW Polo (PCF7935 transponder) – KWP1281

29) VW Touareg/Phaeton/Bentley/Cyenne Kline – KWP2000

30) Audi A8 – CAN

31) VW, Seat, Skoda -2007 – CAN

32) Porsche Cayenne CAN – CAN

33) VW Passat B6/CC – CAN (Support OBD lost all key)

34) VW Passat B6/CC with EDC17/MED17 – CAN (Support OBD lost all key)

35) VW Golf V with Visteon dash

36) Audi A4 (RB8 Instrument Cluster) 2004+ – KWP2000

37) VW, Seat, Skoda 2007+ – CAN (Support OBD lost all key)

38) VW, Seat, Skoda, Audi with VDO NEC 2009+ – UDS (Support OBD lost all key)

39) Lamborghini Gallardo -2005

40) Lamborghini Gallardo 2005+

41) VW with NEC+95320 or Magneti Marelli with Motorola 9S12 2009+ (Support OBD lost all key)

42) Immobilizer box use Megamos – KWP1281

43) New Beetle – KWP2000

44) Johnson Controls with 95320 – UDS (Support OBD lost all key)

45) VW Dashboard with VDO NEC35xx 2013+ – UDS (Support OBD lost all key)

Info source: http://www.eobdtool.co.uk/wholesale/vvdi2-key-programmer.html

Price: 1,229EUR

OBDSTAR X300 Pro3

OBDSTAR X300 Pro3 can work with VAG Group vehicle IMMO incl. adding new key and all keys lost.

OBDSTAR X300 Pro3 VAG group vehicles car list

Visit official site www.obdstar.com, click on “Carlist”, then “VW vehicles”, then “IMMOBILIZER”, etc.

OBDSTAR X300 Pro3 IMMO & remote reviews, advise you login http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/ (Use keywords “obdstar” to search and you can find a post entitled ” OBDSTAR X 100 pro IMMO & Remote Feedback”.

Lonsdor K518ISE

Support add key for VAG Group

User manual for example:

VW IMMO5 Key / Smart key programming with Lonsdor K518ISE

Audi Q3 2013 key programming with Lonsdor K518ISE

Lonsdor K518ISE user manual

Lonsdor K518ISE update (The functions and vehicle coverage expand with new update release.)

Auro Otosys IM600

VAG Group key learning works great incl. add new keys and all keys lost

Examples:

VW key learning with Auro Otosys IM600 tutorial

2014 Audi Q5 key learning with Auro Otosys IM600

2008 Audi A4 key learning with Auro Otosys IM600

Audi A3 2012 keys lost with Auro Otosys IM600

2015 Audi Q5 all keys lost with Auro Otosys IM600

Source: http://www.eobdtool.co.uk/wholesale/auro-otosys-im600-diagnostic-key-programming-tool.html

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Good luck 🙂

VVDI2 programs VW MQB NEC35XX smart keys instruction

VVDI2 programs VW MQB NEC35XX smart keys by following the step-by-step procedure.

Prepare:

1) Xhorse VVDI2 VAG V5.1.0

2) Original blank key or MQB key made by VVDI2

3) MQB Immobilizer function Authorization (User who hase the copy 48 (96 bit) authorization will get MQB license for free)

Step-by-step procedure:

Open VVDI2 V5.1.0, select the option “VAG”

The computer is communicating with the device, please wait…

Turn on the dashboard

Click on “Read EEPROM/FLASH”, then NEXT.

Picture means “Note: EEPROM needs to be read out for one time, the general user doesn’t need to read out the FLASH which only supports a part of dashboard and will read for a long time.

Follow the tip “After using the original working key to turn on the ignition, click “OK”. If it is keyless entry system, please put the original working key close to the sensor coil and turn on the ignition. ”

Click on “OK”

This is Smart key, click on “OK”

Reading data, please wait…Both the EP data and IMMO data need to be read out.

Read ep data successfully and save as name “ep”

Please read the prompt: After the operation complete totally, please click on the option “Restore the dashboard” to active the dashboard.

Click on “Read IMMO data“, read successfully and save as name “fd”.

Follow the tip: After the operation complete totally, After the operation complete totally, please click on the option “Restore the dashboard” to active the dashboard, click “OK”

Save IMMO data successfully

Click on “restore the dashboard” and you can see restore successfully.

Follow the tip “Use the original working key to turn on the ignition switch, click on “OK”, if it is keyless entry system, please put the original working key close to the sensor coil and turn on the ignition.”, click on “OK”.

Are visiting safely

Before generating dealer key, firstly read the original key.

Get the long message shown as below, Click on “ok”

Generate common dealer key, click on “Next”.

Get message “Warning: the dealer key that is generated with the original key can’t be replaced the Anti-start lock online, otherwise the following ECU will be affected:

01- Engine

02- Transmission

17- Combined dashboard

19- gateway system

2B – electronic steering column lock

Advise you choose the option “OEM” to generate the OEM dealer key.

Go on generating the common dealer key?

Click on “Yes” to continue.

Are you sure you want to generate Audi common dealer key?

Please make sure the make is right, if you choose wrong, please return back to choose again.

Click on “Yes”

Put the original key into the VVDI2 antenna then click on “OK” to confirm.

Please input the new key into the VVDI2.

The dealer key generates successfully, please learn it to the car (2 pieces to learn).

Get message: After the operation complete totally, please click on the option “Restore the dashboard” to active the dashboard.”, click “OK”

Click on “Add key”

Get message “Note: before learning the key, please firstly save EEPROM and IMMO data (Important), if it saved please go on…”

Enter the number of dealer keys you want to learn? enter “2”, then click on “Load the IMMO data”, choose “fd” file, click on “Next”

Message ” the current key is smart?”, click on “Yes”

Put the first key close to the sensor coil of the car, turn on the dashboard and go on.

Are matching….

The first one key is learned successfully, you can see 1-2 on the dashboard.

To learn the second key.

Put the second new key close to the sensor coil of the car.

Learn succeed, you can see 2- on the dashboard.

You see the left corner status ” learn succeed”

This is the new key which is programmed, test the remote works.

Take the original key out of the car, to start.

Finally! VVDI2 programs VW MQB NEC35XX system smart keys successfully.

Guide: VVDI 2 BMW read the ISN from MSD and MSV ECUs and more

VVDI 2 BMW V4.9.0 is able to read the ISN from MSD and MSV ECUs incl. MSV80, MSV801, MSD80, MSV801, MSV802, MSV812, MSV851, MEVD17xx -E Series, MEV17N46 / ME17N45 – E series, MEVD17xx – F series.

Guide:

Open VVDI 2 BMW V4.9.0, click on “Key learn” then “ECU ISN”.

Select type, i.e MSV80.

Click on “Read ECU Information” and get VIN, type, hardware number, software number, ZB number and type number etc.

Click on “Read ECU ISN”, then get message ” Warning: you are starting to read ECU ISN, we strongly recommend you connect extra power to car! Read ECU ISN require about 6-8 minutes.

Continue? Click on “Yes” to continue.

Waiting…until VVDI2 BMW read out ISN successfully.

Done.

VVDI2 read PIN & CS from VW Golf VI 1.6 TDI PCR2.1?

Verified: VVDI2 cannot read PIN & CS from VW Golf VI 1.6 TDI PCR2.1

Discussion copied from a forum:

A: Is it possible with VVDI2 read PIN and CS from VW Golf VI 1.6 TDI PCR2.1????

I need to change ECU and make IMMO work. Old ECU is damaged…

B: I did that several times. It’s not possible to read CS and pin from new used Ecu prc2.1. You have to have a tool like Smok or avdi. To read CS and pin. Then you can add Ecu by vvdi2.

A: Are you sure that once you know the PIN, MAC, CS you can adapt the PCR 2.1 with VVDI2? We’re not talking about the EDC17, MED17 or PPD 1.X, but about the PCR2.1. I taught hat PCR 2.1 can’t be adapted with VVDI2

B: Yes I’m 100% sure. I bought Smok license for pcr2.1 and done rest with vvdi2.

A: This is my plan too, but I read that the adaptation can’t be done with VVDI2. Thank you, mate, have a nice one!!!

B: I did few Skoda Octavia 1,6tdi 2010-2011

1.U need to read PIN MAC CS. From the dash.

2.If it’s ok then read by Smok PIN MAC CS. 3.Go to adapt unit module and choose Specify manually the existing PIN/CS…. and put your data.

4.After that if all ok you be able to filling up New Immobilizer data. That’s all. Even before u buy Smok u can make a try just skip point 2.

A: Excuse my ignorance, but what is the easyest way to read the CS from a 2009 Passat CC with EDC17 for dealer key preparation, I prefer not to open the ECU. Regards!!!

B: Pull and read comfort control module behind glovebox

Conclusion & Solution: Smok or AVDI instead of VVDI2 read PIN & CS from pcr2.1, then add ECU with VVDI2

VVDI2 vs Zed Full what is better for VAG & BMW?

VVDI2 vs ZED FULL what tool is better for VAG and BMW key programming?

Look here:

Rely 1: I have Zed-Full and to be honest it’s a bit of a disappointment. Slow bringing out anything new on the VAG front. Older A3’s and TT’s never seems to be able to read the pin when other tools do fine. Not great on newer Marelli dash especially doesn’t like the one in the VW UP. Never manages to read any CAS modules by OBD (used to ok but hasn’t successfully read a single one for months) on top of that it’s expensive to run.
I’m about to order VVDI2 (Would have updated my AVDI but not going to be forced into dealing with KAP)

Reply 2: i have vvdi2 and zed full. for vag and bmw vvdi2 is best for me
zed full is good too for other marks

Reply 3: I had Zedfull for almost two years.
The day I bought it was happy day that week.
The day I sold it out was happiest day in my life .
VAG mostly if I couldn’t do with other tools Zedfull also cannot (PIN CODE).
Pretty expensive device for using indeed on tokens. Learn key for Passat B5 can cost about 25 – 30 tokens if procedure go okay (example),
pin code 20 + 5 or 10 for learning. Almost 20 years old car.
Hah chinese 100$ cost device can do the job with blink. These cars should be there for free for the price device cost.
VAG immo 4 chinese ID48 cannot learn but tokens take. Support says: “Use original or zedfull ID48” .
Basically support not very good, they reply sometimes . If you loose some tokens because the device CANNOT or wrong transponder you never gain them back but the claim before buy was different.
Did not try BMW when you see how many tokens they want – 50 tokens (about 35$) for key. What do you think for try?

Mitsubishi smart key cannot add, chinese device learn key with blink.
This device is for dummies… click there … click here .. done. For begginers maybe good but not for professionals.
I was disappointed with the device and support.

Reply 4: I have both, vvdi2 is better, ZED FULL always delay with their softwares and updates compared with other tools.

Reply 5: i agree. also have a zedfull, in bmw is my only option (have a tcode pro but dont buy bmw modules). made a few bmw, a x5 and x6 by obd and work fine, and a mini too. in vag is not very updated, sometimes in vw brazil have a few issues, for ex: trying to make a all key lost 2015 voyage, read pin ok, and tell me wait 15 min for security, then make weird config and dashboard say key 2-6, dont accept more keys, try again, wait another 15min, and again, i want 2 key and zedfull put 6 in programming. tcode make ok in the first attempt

Reply 6: if you need good tool for BMW CAS/MB EZS (read and write MB IR key), buy xhorse vvdi2. it makes keys over OBD (90% of VAG and BMW can be done by OBD in VVDI2) and includes all the VVDI functions

In summary,

If you looking only for VAG + BMW , then VVDI2 and VVDI prog is way to go. No need any other tool. In VVDI2 you have also programmer similar to Tango that you can make keys buy dump, but 90% of VAG and BMW can be done by OBD in VVDI2.

VVDI programmer don’t have OBD it’s only for bench programming.

Good for CAS4, FRM, EZS, EWS4 and many more.

VVDI2 BMW key programming:

VVDI2 BMW + OBD Authorization Service

VVDI2 BMW CAS4+ Authorization Service

VVDI2 BMW FEM/BDC Authorization Service

VVDI2 VAG key programming:

VVDI2 VW AUDI 4th 5th IMMO Authorization Service

VVDI2 AUDI 5th IMMO Authorization Service

Xhorse VVDI2 users , free EDC17 and MEV17 authorization

Today, I read a post on DK forum entitled ” VVDI2 users , free EDC17 and MEV17 authorization”, and some users provide serial number public for authorization.

Actually the free EDC17 and MEV17 authorization is limited, to get one extra Xhorse Condor mini key cutting machine, Xhorse VVDI2 could active all of these function for free: including OBD read MED17/EDC17 PIN / CS / MAC, calculate OBD data online, calculate EEPROM / FLASH for PIN/MAC/CS.

or use remote points to exchange PIN/MAC/CS. PIN/MAC/CS is: if you use Xhorse remote/key and add to car, every key will give you points.

For sale:

Xhorse VVDI2 full version (VW/Audi/BMW/Porsche/PSA Newly Add BMW FEM/BDC Function)

http://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/vvdi2-key-programmer.html

Xhorse CONDOR XC-MINI Automatic Key Cutting Machine for sale

http://www.uobdii.com/wholesale/ikeycutter-condor-xc-mini.html

for best price of VVDI2 plus CONDOR XC-MINI, contact at email: Sales@UOBDII.com.

How to authorize VVDI2 ID48 (VV-03) (VV-04) Copy function? what to need?

Have VVDI2 to authorize (VV-03) VAG Copy 48 transponder by OBDII and (VV-04) Copy 48 transponder (96 bit). Please read this post.

Copy (VV-03) VAG 48 transponder by OBDII

Need:

-> Copy 48 activation

-> 48 data collector

-> Charge account (similar to tokens)

Copy (VV-04) 48 transponder (96 bit)

Need:

-> Copy 48 Transponder (96bit) Activation, $245 on sale, ends October 24,2017

-> 48 Data collector

-> New ID48 chip

-> -100 member points for one-time 48 Chip copy

->VVDI2 has 4th Immobilizer system function

Guide & Details:

(VV-03) VAG Copy 48 transponder by OBDII activation service

Requires: VVDI2 serial number

VVDI2 VAG ID48 model add key & all key lost supported:
2015 Skoda Octavia
2015 VW Passat smart key
2015 VW Scirocco smart key
2015 Audi Q3
2014, 2015, 2016 Tiguan smart key
parts of 24C64, 24C32 all keys lost without removing dash